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    I found my diagrams, here's how mines wired.
    Green wire pin 50 on the green or red pcm connector, then behind your glove box, find the light blue wire coming out of the drac, pin c15(this feeds directly into the cluster). I clipped this wire and spliced it straight into the green wire from pcm pin 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slow94 View Post
    I found my diagrams, here's how mines wired.
    Green wire pin 50 on the green or red pcm connector, then behind your glove box, find the light blue wire coming out of the drac, pin c15(this feeds directly into the cluster). I clipped this wire and spliced it straight into the green wire from pcm pin 50.
    +1 to the above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickeymotormount View Post
    +1 to the above.

    What do you guys think? I have my green speedo wire spliced into the blue wire at the vss buffer box. Do i need to cut the blue wire so its not connected to the buffer box? Here is a pic of how it is.
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    I think you're hooked to the wrong wire. My '93 truck schematic has the light blue/black wire going to the speedo.The dark blue wire is the Rear Wheel Antilock Brake wire. If you pull the instrument cluster and look at the plug, there are letter designations for all the terminals on the plug. Letter designation "S" should be the light blue/black wire. This wire is the speedo wire. You can either snip it here and run your green wire directly to the plug or snip it at the buffer box being sure to eliminate the buffer box from the circuit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mickeymotormount View Post
    I think you're hooked to the wrong wire. My '93 truck schematic has the light blue/black wire going to the speedo.The dark blue wire is the Rear Wheel Antilock Brake wire. If you pull the instrument cluster and look at the plug, there are letter designations for all the terminals on the plug. Letter designation "S" should be the light blue/black wire. This wire is the speedo wire. You can either snip it here and run your green wire directly to the plug or snip it at the buffer box being sure to eliminate the buffer box from the circuit.
    Whats weird is the way u see it hooked up in the pic, my speedo worked with my old vss harness connected at the rear transfercase. So I had the green wire spliced to the blue wire, then I had nelsons vss connector for the input, and my obs harness for the vss output....and the symptoms were it didnt want to shift ( obviouisly)....BUT the speedo worked back then. When I hook up nelsons rear vss output on the tcase, the speedo doesnt work.
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    The way vss is setup in 94, is the twisted pair wires from the vss going straight into that drac box, then the decoded speed signal is fed to the guages, tbi pcm, abs, and cruise. So when you hooked up the old tbi vss wires, you were feeding the guage, but your lq4 pcm did not have a clue how fast you were going causing the weird/no shift.

    On the lq4, the vss sensors go straight into the pcm, the pcm decodes the signal based on tire size, gears, etc and then feeds a speed signal to the guages, cruise, abs, etc.

    So now that youve hooked up the nelson harness to the transfer case, youre giving the pcm the correct signal it needs to shift, but you've taken the 94 drac box out of the loop by unhooking it. That is where splicing into the blue wire comes in, your bypassing the 94 vss/drac setup and using the speed output from the pcm. Hope that makes sense.

    To get the proper ground to the pcm for 4wd low, you can build a simple relay circuit to apply ground when your 1994 transfer case applies 12v.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slow94 View Post
    The way vss is setup in 94, is the twisted pair wires from the vss going straight into that drac box, then the decoded speed signal is fed to the guages, tbi pcm, abs, and cruise. So when you hooked up the old tbi vss wires, you were feeding the guage, but your lq4 pcm did not have a clue how fast you were going causing the weird/no shift.

    On the lq4, the vss sensors go straight into the pcm, the pcm decodes the signal based on tire size, gears, etc and then feeds a speed signal to the guages, cruise, abs, etc.

    So now that youve hooked up the nelson harness to the transfer case, youre giving the pcm the correct signal it needs to shift, but you've taken the 94 drac box out of the loop by unhooking it. That is where splicing into the blue wire comes in, your bypassing the 94 vss/drac setup and using the speed output from the pcm. Hope that makes sense.

    To get the proper ground to the pcm for 4wd low, you can build a simple relay circuit to apply ground when your 1994 transfer case applies 12v.

    I did splice into the blue wire. Was that the wrong one in my picture? I spliced into the solid blue. Do I need to splice into the lt blue striped one?
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    http://www.the12volt.com/12voltimages/pos2neg.gif

    You would hook the 12v output(that went to the tbi pcm) from the transfer case into pin 86, when activated this will apply a ground to pin 87 on the relay, you hook that straight into the lq4 pcm pin 16. Sorry, im on my tablet and its hard to type out long messages.
    Last edited by slow94; 08-01-2013 at 10:10 PM.

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    The light blue goes to the guage.

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