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    LS Swap: A/C Bracket For 5.3

    No surprise - the stock 5.3 A/C compressor will not fit my chassis, but I knew this going in. After talking with a lot of different aftermarket A/C bracket companies, I decided to go with a A/C relocation bracket from a company called LsBrackets.com. I had a few option with them: keep the 88's stock A/C system, or go with a Sanden compressor setup (I chose the former so I wouldn't have to change out a lot of parts).

    The kit that the company recommended for my truck was the R4 A/C Relocation Bracket Turbo (LS-0278 1999-2013 Truck/SUV) which allows me to use the Blazer's original A/C system, except that I would need to get an R4 compressor for a 6 grove belt. While LsBrackets.com refused to tell me what compressor, belt and tensioner I would need until after I purchased the bracket set, I later learned that I would need A/C Delco 15-20227 (with a 4 1/4 clutch), a Gates K061045 belt, and a Gates 38163 tensioner. I don't know why they were so secretive with this information when I requested it, but here it is.

    The kit is extremely light, there are minimal parts, the aluminum corners are sharp, and the instructions are pretty terrible. That's why I'm posting this with better pictures than what they provide. At this point, I have not got my tensioner, belt, or the correct compressor (they are in the mail), so I'll add to this later and let everyone know how it worked.

    After screwing with the parts and trying to make since of the instructions for a little while, I think I discovered how this A/C kit goes together. First, remove your LS A/C compressor which is located at the bottom, passenger side of the engine (by the starter). If you are doing a swap like me, then you will need custom motor mount plates, and the stock A/C setup will get in the way of the plate anyway, so pull it. Second, shift the tensioner pulley so that you can slip the belt off it, and then unbolt it from the water pump housing (should have 3 bolts). Don't get rid of it because you will likely need to import the pulley onto your new bracket later.

    Third, pull out your aftermarket A/C bracket kit which will relocate your R4 compressor to the top, passenger side of the motor. It's important to note that this bracket will prevent you from being able to use the stock air filter system, and you will need to use an aftermarket cold air intake system that is routed from the driver's side instead of the passenger's (no big deal - just note this in your budget).

    I started with the smallest bolt which connects the back bracket to the passenger side head.





    http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/attac...8&d=1411270616

    The back bracket plate should now be attached to the head with one bolt, and it should be separated by one of the shortest cylinders. Next, take the two 4 inch bolts, the front bracket plate, and the two medium sized cylinders and attach them to the water pump housing where the old tensioner pulley was.





    There are two long bolts in the kit, but one is slightly longer than the other. Take the shorter of the two bolts and run it through both plates, one large cylinder, and the last short cylinder. The bolt goes through all of it and into the head.







    Now, the longest bolt will be ran through the left side of both bracket plates, and it will attach your Gates 38163 Tensioner to the bracket (don't have mine yet). It will have a thread and washer on the back of it.



    The remaining three holes (center and top two corners) will take the bolts that hold the compressor in place; they each get a nut as well. I have a picture below with the wrong compressor, but it still fits the same.

    http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/attac...4&d=1411270603

    http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/attac...3&d=1411270600



    http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/attac...9&d=1411270587



    And, of course, just for fun I decided to put the air intake system on while the bracket and compressor were attached (doesn't come anywhere close to fitting, so don't bother).



    I'll update this when I get everything running.
    Last edited by 88blazerboy; 09-21-2014 at 12:11 AM.

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    Oh cool. Ive been looking at their brackets for the R4 compressor for a project. Good to see someone else using them.


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    So far, so good. I just got my compressor, belt, and tensioner in the mail today. It was like Christmas... only I bought all my own presents and went into debt. Apart form the not so helpful instructions, I'm pretty pleased with the product in the mock-up phase. Holly's A/C bracket set for the Sanden compressor is a hell of a lot more beefy, but it requires a lot more part change-outs. It would have ran me about $200 more than the Lsbrackets. com set-up with the R4 compressor.

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    I went with the one from Dirty Dingo and had no problems either
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    I forgot to mention that the A/C compressor I bought (the one the LS.brackets.com recommended in their instructions) ended up having a 5 inch clutch instead of a 4.5 inch clutch, so the belt number I previously listed doesn't fit. I ended up getting a Gates K061058 belt (13/16" x 106 3/8") and it works fine. Other than that, it looks like a nice setup, and in a few weeks, everything should finally be up and running.

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    I went with novak conversion kit ACG3-3 and everything bolted up great and looks great. Comes with brackets, tensioner, manifold for custom lines, new pressure switch, and pigtail for pressure switch.

    http://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/a...cation_kit.htm

    And some pictures for others to reference.



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    Wow! The novak conversion kit ACG3-3 looks almost identical to the lsbrackets.com bracket. Is yours up and running yet Jeebalow? I'm wondering how mine will do. The factory A/C lines that plug into the back of the compressor fit the compressor, but the rubber sections of both lines bend to a kink and will not work. I'm going to have to figure out how to use something else.

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    It's not up and running yet. With school starting back up a month ago, it REALLY slowed progress. Will likely be at least December before I can get it back on the road. I can check line fitment before then though. I'll let you know if the lines kink, but I doubt they will. The compressor is really close to the original location. Bump this thread if I forget to post about it. I get busy sometimes.

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    A/C lines

    My A/C lines were built to stretch across the hood to the upper driver-side of the 5.7 engine. Since the relocation A/C bracket for the R4 compressor is now on the upper passenger-side, the rubber section of the A/C lines buckle and kink (one of them is really bad). One would thing that the rubber section would be able to flex more in the center, but unfortunately, they kink right at the very ends where they transition to metal lines. I tried moving the A/C line bracket positions around to move the tension, but this made no noticeable difference. I'll probably need something shorter or else do something with braided steel fuel lines.

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    I'm using the dirty dingo bracket and stock hoses from my 4.3 on my 92. I had to bend the metal parts of the lines but they worked fine. I never even discharged the system when I did the swap. I did make an additional bracket that goes from the back of the compressor to the passenger side head to reduce vibration.
    1992 rcsb 5.3 lm7, NV3500
    2012 corvette vert, ls3
    Both tuned by me with HP Tuners

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