Motor swap #2 94 Z71

Hey all:

It's been several months since I last posted, but I am now in the thick of getting my 94 RCLB Z-71 running on LSx power. I was holding out to see if my buddy would get the LS1 out of his Camaro in a timely manner, and he hasn't. So, the 4.8L is going in. It's a bone stock <10k mile motor. It looks like this truck will be my DD for a while (budget cuts losing company vehicle), so dead nuts reliable is the goal.

I have a road trip planned to haul my bike out to NY for the 4th of July, so the truck is going together quickly.

I did this swap once before, on a 2WD 93 4.3/4L60E. This one is a little different.

Differences:
1) The original trans on the Z71 was rebuilt right before I got the truck, and the truck was running a Dart-head 350. So, instead of using an LS trans, I am running the original case with the flexplate adapter. Since the bell is shorter than the LS-specific 4L60E's, and I didn't want to move the trans forward, the engine had to go back from the old setup. This required new mount adapters, which I built, painted and installed over the weekend.

2) The engine will be getting the old R4 AC compressor. I'll be building brackets for that after the engine is up and running.

3)The tranny cooler ports are in a slightly different location in relation to the bell, so I will need to modify both the fittings, and the routing. No biggie, I will have some new hydraulic lines made up if I can't just cut and re-swage different fititngs on the existing hoses.

4) When I built the last truck, I was on a different time crunch (baby on the way), so when I finished it, I left things like the oil pressure gauge and coolant temp gauge on the cluster unhooked. This is getting fixed. I am currently debating how I will do it. I would like to whittle the stock sender down to M12 for the head, but I am also looking at other options, like the water pump mod and a few other tricks I have in my head. The wiring was never as clean as I would have liked it, and I have been meaning to clean it up.... for 4 years now. This will be getting done as well. The oil pressure is pretty straight forward, I found a 1/8 NPT-M16 adapter, and will drop that into the original Oilpressure port behind the intake.

Currently the motor is sitting in the truck, and bolted to the trans. I'm pretty happy with the mount brackets, but I have some ideas I might try later.

Here are a few pics of the brackets tacked together, and before reinforcements were added. The dropped right on the mounts like OEM, and mated to the trans perfect. The only thing that would make these better would be to have them laser cut, and welded in a jig. Even without that, after I welded them up and braced them, they fit perfect. I dropped the motor in the bay, wiggled the trans on, and then dropped the motor onto the mounts. The mount bolts slipped right in. It took a lot of measuring, remeasuring and fab work, but I am really happy with the way they fit.


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Here's a quick shot with the motor sitting in the truck, all bolted up for the last time. I made an engine load leveler that made dropping this in by myself a breeze. It's real low-profile, I made it this way so that my friend can use it to pull the ls1 out of his Camaro, and clear the cowl. It's kinda modular, I made it so the ends can be removed, and different attachements added. It also fits the GenIV valley cover with all of the casting bumps it has for the cylinder deactivation electronics/hydraulics. I also have a setup for LT1's that grab the intake by the throttle body bolts in the front, and attaches to the heads at the rear.


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One more pic. I modified a 4L60E converter dust shield to clear the LS oilpan. It fits pretty decent when I mocked up the engine (I have a junk ls1 block for mockup)
I'll have to doublecheck clearances tonight now that the complete engine is in (i.e. with crank and flexplate), and check starter clearance.

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Got the truck almost all together now. Exhaust is hung. Electrical is 80% done Induction system (PVC sewer pipe) is in. Motor starts and runs, but runs a little rough, and the trans is not shifting. I am hoping it's electrical, as the trans was supposedly rebuilt and running good right before the old motor died.
Some exhaust pics. I am running a complete exhaust system out of a 2004 SCSB pickup. I had to make some new exhaust hangars, which are pictured below. I'll have to figure out the 4WD wiring later, if I get the bugs worked out tonight, I'll be shaking the truck down over the next few days, then off on a 800 mile road trip..


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Got the truck almost all together now. Exhaust is hung. Electrical is 80% done Induction system (PVC sewer pipe) is in. Motor starts and runs, but runs a little rough, and the trans is not shifting. I am hoping it's electrical, as the trans was supposedly rebuilt and running good right before the old motor died.
Some exhaust pics. I am running a complete exhaust system out of a 2004 SCSB pickup. I had to make some new exhaust hangars, which are pictured below.

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Check that the transmission has power going to it. If you think it has a hard miss, check all plug wires first for firing and then get an injector clip and fuel pressure gauge to hook to the fuel rail. Pressure the rail up and then put 12v to the injector on one side and tap the ground wire and see that the pressure drops. Do this on each injector to see that its firing and pushing fuel into the manifold.

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Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat

Check that the transmission has power going to it. If you think it has a hard miss, check all plug wires first for firing and then get an injector clip and fuel pressure gauge to hook to the fuel rail. Pressure the rail up and then put 12v to the injector on one side and tap the ground wire and see that the pressure drops. Do this on each injector to see that its firing and pushing fuel into the manifold.

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Bingo, it was lack of 12+ going to the trans. For some reason I had that circuit wired to some power lead coming off the dash harness.. don't ask, I have no clue. I put the truck together 4 years ago while on a time crunch (baby coming), so while it worked flawlessly, there was obviously some goofy wiring done. It's all fixed now... sorta. I need to make up a small fuse panel, and eliminate the 2001 UBEC... but that's after the road trip.

Rough idle... I felt like a vacuum leak, so I checked the induction system I built (4" PVC), and then looked to see if the knock sensor wiring got underone of the intake runners where it seals to the head. Nothing there, but I noticed some of the foam they stick to the bottom of the intakes was sticking under the #4 runner. I pulled up the intake to find that most of the port was covered with the foam. I yanked that out, and things got much better.. but not perfect. When I was loosening up the bolts around runner #7, I must have bunped the foul PCV out. I reattached that... idles MUUCCH better now. It still feels rougher than when the motor was in the 93 Sierra, but that might be due to the mounts, not the engine. There is no stumble anymore off idle.

Took it for a maiden voyage to get some t-fittings to tie the steam vent to the overflow hose, and get some more distilled water to 50/50 up the Dexcool. Speedo dropped out, but the Tech II was still reading VSS, so the bridge connection at the speedo buffer connector must have come loose (it was just some MIG wire in there to test the circuit. Also, the HVAC and wipers don't work... probably a fuse, we'll see. The truck needs front shocks, maybe tie-rods and a centerlink too. I hit a few bumps here on our glorious Michigan roads, and the front end started to shake and the tires started to shudder. I checked out the tie-rods, they are a little sloppy, the centerlink has some play, but nothing that would make it shake like it did... I had to slow down to under 15mph to get it to stop shuddering. I'll be looking for some Bilsteins or Rancho's shortly.

More later, I took some pics of the engine bay about an hour ago, but I have yet to transfer them off my Blackberry.

Pics of the engine bay.. wiring almost cleaned up, and I need to paint the PVC induction. Someday I will reroute all of the wiring that goes over the intake, just not this week :)..
Also need to build an enclosure for the air filter and pull cold air from the fender. If I ever go e-fans, I'll build the induction to go to the front left side of the CRFM and punch some holes in the sheet metal to pull air from beside the radiator on that side. Right now with the mech fan and the alternator location, it's a tough way to route the intake. I have a complete Trailblazer SS induction system, and a 2004 Sierra induction as well. Neither of them fit without mods, but the TBSS induction has the noise tuners that run along the right side of the intake manifold. If I can get that to fit, the induction moan will largely go away.... a nice plus from a refinement standpoint.

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Quick update. Due to the sudden loss of a company vehicle, I had to get this Z71 into a running state at a pace faster than I had been proceeding. I got it running just before the 4th of July weekend.

Found out that the steering was completely shot... like a chatter bump would get the front end shaking so violently that it was hard to keep a hold of the wheel. Shocks did not fix it. Ended up replacing the tie rods (not stiff, but not loose), idler arm, idler arm bracket, and the pitman arm.. all three of which were looser than a wh**e... well you get the idea..

Washed the truck, shampoo'd a large portion of the interior to make it tolerable, loaded my motorcycle in the back and drove it from Detroit to Ithaca NY and back. Had to put a front axle bearing (just inboard of the right side CV)... that was fun doing that with the auto parts store 25 miles away, and my uncles half-assed tool set (half may be overstating it, maybe 1/4-assed)

Got home with something in the driveline HOWLING.... Checked the fluid level in the axle by adding 1.5 quarts... thought it was the rear axle, the remaining fluid stunk like hell. So I blew it apart, put in fresh 3.73's, Eaton Gov lock, new bearings and seals throughout. That was not only a small part of the problem, oh and that axle holds 2.5 qt's, so it was cooked, just not as bad as I thought.

The howl was something partially engaged in the t-case. I cycled the t-case from 2-hi to 4 low.. actually 2-low because the electrics for the front axle are not wired up yet.. drove it about 1/2 mile and then shifted it back to 2-HI.. noise went away... hmmmm.

- Still need to clean up some wiring, I have a battery drain somewhere.
- Still need to wire up the front axle 4WD actuator, oh, and upgrade the front axle from 3.42-3.73.
-Will need to look into the t-case. Might need new bearings or something.
-Still need to fab up an AC bracket to run the old R4 compressor. I am working on that design while in meetings.. I love AutoCAD on my laptop, though I wish I knew UG better.
-Still need to clean up the body. It needs to get wheeled out bad. Needs some bed rail covers, and some minor paint work where it looks like a bed cap wore off the paint on the bed rails. Oh, and I need to paint my spare tailgate, the one on there is beat to hell.

It's kinda a DD now. Just been riding my CB750 to work the last few days.. I have over 1000 miles on it with the road trip..

Haven't updated this in a few months, largely since I have not really done anything to the truck. I figured out what I wanted to do for a new engine harness fuse/relay panel, but I have not wired it up yet. The truck is a full time DD now, so I have to be careful on tearing into it. I will build the panel with room for two electric fan relays so I can go efans at a later date. Most people report over 1/2-1 mpg with this swap, since it's a DD, I'll take the improvement. I did FINALLY mount the ECM last weekend. I removed the charcoal canister, and installed a left side battery tray, modified a PCM bracket to attach to the battery tray, and bolted it in. I'll upload pics soon.

I picked up a 94 Yukon trans and t-case. I now have a spare t-case to work on/refresh and swap in. Still looking for a good 3.73 front diff.

Fantastic storyline. It helps me understand what I am going to be doing to my '94. If I could I would like to ask you a few questions. In (most) of the other posts, "they" say that the new harness for a LS1 wont connect to the 12 pin connector on the 94 trannys. So what do I do?

My other question...my truck has a 9" lift on it, do you think I will have any problems with headers hitting my front drive shaft? Thanks!

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Originally Posted by HPICamaroSS

Fantastic storyline. It helps me understand what I am going to be doing to my '94. If I could I would like to ask you a few questions. In (most) of the other posts, "they" say that the new harness for a LS1 wont connect to the 12 pin connector on the 94 trannys. So what do I do?

My other question...my truck has a 9" lift on it, do you think I will have any problems with headers hitting my front drive shaft? Thanks!

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"They" are wrong. It plugged right in. You will need to have your controller reprogrammed to eliminated the ECCC, which is what pulses the converter clutch. This functionality can be turned off so that you just get a regular lockup. The 94 trans does not have the ECCC capability, and will throw a code when it does not detect the circuit. You won't have ANY TCC until you get the reprogram due to the error code. I had this cal changed, and it's been working fine for 4 months now.

as for the lift, can't help you, I am at stock ride height and using the stock LS truck manifolds.

Nice write up. I have a 94 SCLB as well. Just bought an 05 5.3/60E pull out from the local junk yard. Going to use the 05 fuse block, fans, harness etc. Nice to see your pics, gets me motivated :)

This will be my second LS swap into a OBS. Did my dad's 95 2wd last winter.

Thanks. I recommend you don't bother with the fuse box, you only need a few relays and about 7 fuses. I have a panel that I am making up using some off the shelf 40A heater blower motor relays. I got some sealed connectors and will mount them on a panel with some fuses. The relays are commonly available at any auto parts store so they won't be an issue if something pops out on the road. I'm putting in 2 extra relays on the panel for when I get around to putting electric fans on the truck, which will likely be next summer.

Other updates:
I picked up a 3.73 front axle from a 99 Tahoe, the outer seals showed a little leakage, so I'll toss in some new seals and install it in the next few weeks. Likely will do U-joints over my Christmas/ New years shutdown, it's the next time I can be without a DD for a little bit.
Attached is a pic of some cosmetic repairs I did before the weather went south here in Motown. I got gallon of Herculiner, and coated the bedrails, inside of the tailgate, top of the rear bumper and the the areas of the bed where the plastic liner rubbed up the paint. The 1 gallon is only good for an "under rail" coating on a 6' bed, so there is a lot of the the bed that has no coating. I wanted to put the plastic liner back in anyway, so it worked out. The bed rails were pretty scratched up, a previous owner must have had a cap on it, as it was bare metal and starting to rust a bit. This protected the areas and cleaned up the appearance quite a bit, exactly what I needed. I also found a guy on craiglist locally that had a new tailgate off a dually. He pulled it and put a v-gate for a 5th wheel on it when new. He did paint on the side, and he shot the gate in my color for the cost of the paint. It wasn't perfect, but the place where the paint sagged was going to get covered in Herculiner. Worked out great. I brought it home, and let is cure some more in my shop while I was out of town for a week, bingo.
Lastly, I got a litel time to play with cleaning up the paint, and wheeled out the hood and roof. 1000% better, just need a warm Sat (I'll take 50's) to wheel and wax the rest of the truck, and it'll look very good for a slightly rough, but rust free 94. Attachment 3541

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Originally Posted by bowtieguy79

Nice write up. I have a 94 SCLB as well. Just bought an 05 5.3/60E pull out from the local junk yard. Going to use the 05 fuse block, fans, harness etc. Nice to see your pics, gets me motivated :)

This will be my second LS swap into a OBS. Did my dad's 95 2wd last winter.

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Nice, is your SCLB a 2WD or 4WD?
This was my second swap, I also helped a little on my buddies L92 swap in his 95 Impala. I am slowly piecing together a 402 with an Ls2 block, LS7 crank and rods, Arias pistons made for LS7 rods and crank (same weight as stock LS7, but 4.005 bore), CNC ported L92 heads, and possibly retaining the dry sump. Not sure what it's destined for, but I'm going a "conservative" 600 FWHP. If I find a nice 77 Impala Coupe, it'll have a home with the T56 I have been saving.

Only a few more motor builds for some others, and I should have the $$ to finish it up.

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Originally Posted by beertestr

Nice, is your SCLB a 2WD or 4WD?
This was my second swap, I also helped a little on my buddies L92 swap in his 95 Impala. I am slowly piecing together a 402 with an Ls2 block, LS7 crank and rods, Arias pistons made for LS7 rods and crank (same weight as stock LS7, but 4.005 bore), CNC ported L92 heads, and possibly retaining the dry sump. Not sure what it's destined for, but I'm going a "conservative" 600 FWHP. If I find a nice 77 Impala Coupe, it'll have a home with the T56 I have been saving.

Only a few more motor builds for some others, and I should have the $$ to finish it up.

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Mine is a 4wd. LOVE it now that its done. I went ahead with the factory 05 fuse block. It really wasn't bad at all. Had to add in 3 wires to it. I'd do it again. I've done both my own harness and modify a existing truck fuse block, I think I prefer the stock truck fuse block.

Hey, you don't happen to have a 94 Service manual do you? I want (need to) hook up the 4WD tonight, and the 93 manual I have show a slightly different wiring setup than 93.

I'm putting in a 98 3.73 front axle with the better, non-thermostatic actuator, and I am fighting the urge to just wire it up with a power, ground and switch on the dash..

I don't have one. I did the harness/actuator upgrade on this truck years ago. Way nicer!

not sure if this will help, but this is what I did back then. http://www.getdieselpower.com/cars/a...R_UPGRADE.html