4X4 On The Track?

[ls1kenny]

Ok, we've all seen it before with the hotrod powerstrokes and cummins, but I saw a guy take it to another level the other day. The last time I went to Ennis for Friday night test and tune, there was a dude in a newer Z-71. Looked like 16" Ralleye wheels off of a 95-96 truck. Hit the box, purged, we are talking massive shot of , then proceeded to melt rubber, and we are not talking about a regular burn out here ladies, this was of epic proportions. Then he cut loose at the line. I'm guessing he launched in 4 HI, then went into 2. All this excitement with this truck, we didn't even see what he was running. A new Cobra is over there w/ slicks and other Bull @#%*, Anyway, they run and the truck blows the slowbra out of the water. No times at the end of the track, I was a little pissed but oh well. From what I hear the guy had a 5.3 w/ ls1 heads and cam, all the boltons you can think of and the . Big converter and big gearing all around. this thing was horribly good looking too. Has anybody seen this truck or one like it around?? Does anybody else do this either??

[Hit Man X]

Originally posted by ls1kenny@Oct 19 2003, 06:47 PM
Ok, we've all seen it before with the hotrod powerstrokes and cummins, but I saw a guy take it to another level the other day. The last time I went to Ennis for Friday night test and tune, there was a dude in a newer Z-71. Looked like 16" Ralleye wheels off of a 95-96 truck. Hit the box, purged, we are talking massive shot of , then proceeded to melt rubber, and we are not talking about a regular burn out here ladies, this was of epic proportions. Then he cut loose at the line. I'm guessing he launched in 4 HI, then went into 2. All this excitement with this truck, we didn't even see what he was running. A new Cobra is over there w/ slicks and other Bull @#%*, Anyway, they run and the truck blows the slowbra out of the water. No times at the end of the track, I was a little pissed but oh well. From what I hear the guy had a 5.3 w/ ls1 heads and cam, all the boltons you can think of and the . Big converter and big gearing all around. this thing was horribly good looking too. Has anybody seen this truck or one like it around?? Does anybody else do this either??

I was going to work my 1500 Z71 LT over (as in my sig) but opted not to for many reasons:

I need a stronger 4L80E trans vs the 4L60E (even fully built, with what I had planned would blow up a 4L60E).
the stock 8.5" wouldn't take a 2Hi launch on slicks
10.5" SF axle is $2500
E-Locker for the small IFS isn't available yet
Only avail in ext cab

I thought of doing a medium compression 422 around 9.5:1, stuffing 7psi into it, running dual stage nitrous also (75/125), obvioulsly heads/cam too. While you can get the motor to handle it, the trans and rear axle aren't up to the task.

I am going with a Duramax Diesel in the spring Better motor, MUCH stronger trans than the 4L80E, 11.5" rear axle, oh and 20+ MPG when cruising. Fully done will make about 750rwhp/1300rwtq...

[ls1kenny]

I'd rather have some fat lady take a dump on my face than drive a Duramax, nothing against you, I just feel that GM needs to ask for the balls back from Isuzu and contract somebody else to build a diesel that is worth a crap.

I work on diesels for a living. And the Duratrash is a far cry from a worthy motor. I'd much rather run an old ISB Cummins or a 7.3 Stroke. These new fangled motors they are coming out with are so yuppie based and built that you can't stand to drive one.

I wouldn't drive a new 6.0 Stroke. We have 3 in our fleet and they are running like hammered dog shit. I couldn't even tell you how many times we've had to restrain from rolling them into a ditch and setting them on fire.

As far as a 5.9L Cummins goes, they are half way decent. If you get one before the 2003 Model. Yeah, the new body style is bitchin but, the "new and improved, quieter motor" is horseshit. A diesel is supposed to be super loud and ballsy. And these new ones aren't.

I have a pipe dream with GM, it may sound crazy, but it could happen.

Dodge is now owned by Mercedes right? So reallistically, they will drop Cummins and start to put Mercedes Diesels in the trucks. Then Cummins has no light duty work.....GM jumps on it and contract Cummins to build a super bad ass diesel that will blow the doors off of anything. Just an idea........maybe an designer at GM will read this and take a chance......

[Dark Knight]

mmmmm..... sweet!

But running in 4hi down the track is sure going to eat up that drivetrain! I know a guy that is running a 427 LS1 derived motor in his lifted S-10 (that is kicking out 510hp right now and should be pretty close to 600hp by spring) and he runs 2hi for the drag strip as far as I know. On the dunes however he runs 4hi with paddles to absolutely spank the V8 Jeep buggy guys.

[farmtruc]

That blue truck is f$#cking nice, what year is that and what mods??

btw, ls1kenny, that post is funnier than ... good decsriptions of the trucks and diesels, lol, i don't know too much about them, but that's a good opionion, hahahhaah

so how long do those engine last with all that compression, propane, nos?

they sure do run, but i'm sure they don't last 200K miles.


thanks,

allen

[99 red silver]

Nice truck.

[GMCwantsLS1]

Man that blue truck looks almost factory under the hood!! Nice truck !

[Dark Knight]

The "blue" truck is a 1998 Chevy S-10 ZR2 that was done by a guy that I know. He is an Advanced Vehicle Engineer for GM. He had it featured in a 4x4 magazine when it was black, had the full size front end conversion, a 4L80E trans, corvette seats, corvette stearing wheel, and had a "regular" vette motor in it. Then he was selected to go on the Ultimate Adventure trip put on by Peterson's 4WHEEL & OFF-ROAD. So he tore the whole thing apart a month before the trip, repainted it, put on a set of custom cut out flairs that he designed (the rules for the trip state that he needed 35's so he did the flairs to let the tires clear with his 5" BDS suspension lift), put in a roll cage, put moser shafts in the back axle, stuffed the diff's with the new eaton e-lockers, and stuck in the 427! The specs on the engine are: 427ci LS1 Engine, GM C5R block, 4.125 inch bore, BRC 11:1 pistons, Lunati 4-inch stroke crank, CNC ported ZO6 cylinder heads, GMPP Hot Cam, ZO6 intake, custom oil pan, custom headers, full 3 inch exhaust, and a complete Aeromotive fuel system. I am not sure what is next but he says that he has more stuff waiting to go in to add at least another 60hp to it.

And if you like diesels I got another one for you. My one friend who did the lift on my truck is currently doing a full four link solid axle set up on his S-10 with a Cummins swap. He is using a 2001 engine with a 98 mechanical pump setup (instead of the electrical). It is backed up by a Silverado Allison trans. As for the transfer case he is still working on that but it will probably be a dual NP205 set up. Anyways he still has more of the frame to replace and the suspension to design but the engine is getting closer to fitting in there with a custom core support and she should be running again by spring.





Oh and before anyone says it, I ain't full of crap... the rigs exist. The owner of the blue one isn't a close friend of mine but I do talk to him when I need help with my truck. The detailed info that I have about it though is from the bio. that he gave in the Magazine. As for the black truck, he is a good friend and you will be seeing it in a magazine eventually but until then you have to rely on me for info.... lol

[ls1kenny]

If you change the oil in a diesel every 5000 miles and the fuel filter about the same it should last damn near forever. My buddies old farm truck is an old Ford w/ the 6.9L I believe, and it has 396000 miles on it. It doesn't even miss a beat. Doesn't burn oil or anything.

If you run propane injection and a bigger turbo, chip, exhaust, injectors, and all the other killer stuff, you can expect more than you think. If you don't hammer down everywhere you go.

Diesels will run forever it you maintain them. If you like to hear the turbo spool all the time then they won't run that long. Okay, what I meant to say was if your throttle happy and you keep your foot 6" from the front bumper when you drive, it won't last very long.

Not in a regular pick up anyway. Now, with a Semi, we have a totally different story. In the military, you should be able to piss in a can of water and put it in an old Detroit Diesel and make it run. Now, tell me that doesn't just kick major ass.

I'd love to see a CAT or a Detroit in a Regular size pickup.

[montecarlo31]

ls1kenny,

Just wondering, so you don't like MB diesels? why would that be? I think you will find the new Hi PSI system is far better then the old systems in many ways one we get real diesel here in america. Europe has been running these diesel in trucks that see a lot more weight then here in america. Just wondering where your "thoughts" are comming from.