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    how to check for coil bind

    As the title states i need t know how to check for coil bind or valve float because i have broken another rocker arm
    Any help is apreciated

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    If you have never had probelms like this and haven't changed any of the valvetrain (ie the valves, valve springs, cam, timing chain, lifters, pushrods or rockers), than I would have no clue why it would do it.

    As far as how to check if they are bottoming out, you will need to put a feeler gauge in between the coils when fully compressed from the cam and whatever the springs are rated for is what they are not sapposed to go past. It should say on the spec sheet for the cam. I forget exactly what they call it.
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    well its a brand new motor all new valve train so im not sure whats causing it

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    the springs are manley part #221428-16 with an instaled height of 1.8 @ 150#

    the cam is a custom ground bullet 226/224-586/578 on a 115 lsa

    the rocker arms are comp pro magnums 1.75 ratio

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    Those springs are rated for 0.600" max lift.
    Your intake lobe is rated at 0.586" (I'm assuming w/1.7 rocker arm).
    Your rocker arms are 1.75, which will translate into 0.603" at the valve.

    That won't put you into coil bind, but you are pushing the envelope with the springs.

    Were the heads milled?
    Have you checked your push rod length?
    It might be prudent to re-check your rocker arm geometry on the valve.

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    Might wanna try stock rockers as others have suggested.

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    Check you pushrods, a lot of times if it was coil bind the push rod will bent.
    Have you gotten with Tommy yet about this.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo6.0L View Post
    Check you pushrods, a lot of times if it was coil bind the push rod will bent.
    Have you gotten with Tommy yet about this.?
    yeah i talked to him about it yesterday and he is ordering me some new spring because i think that i am floating the valve over 4500 rpm and manley just started making a dual spring which even he didnt know about there part #221436-16 there good up to .660 lift and only have 5 more pounds of seat pressure su i wont have to worry about the lifters. and none ofd the push rods are bent thats y i think that i am floating the valves


    And does anyone know where i can get a spring changing tool because ill have to do this in the truck and also how big of a pain is it to change them in the truck

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    Here is a solution to your problem. You can get rocker spacers to raise the rocker so that it will not over compress the springs. That should fix the problem, but you will need to get stronger springs and make sure that they will not mess up your cam. That should be everything, but make sure that you haven't bent or "crushed" (made them shorter from impact) the pushrods. If you want to change the springs get some that will work best in what you want your motor to be. Don't go and spend the money on something that you are going to have to replace down the road, lots of people do it, I am just saying it doesn't make sense!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    if he spaces his rockers up then theres a chance he will need valve cover spacers
    already has valve cover spacers....had to get them to clear the roller rockers
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