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I've got an lq4 that I'm trying to get ready for my ex-military one ton 4x4. I know Nelson seems to be the favorite but I wondered if anybody has had any luck with anybody else? The engine is a stock bottom with milled 317's and a comp 220 220 .555 .555 114 camshaft. Also, would an ls1 tune run with that cam temporarily or would it need a custom tune before i even try to drive it. I'm planning on using the turbo 400 that is in it for now.
there is no one else........lol
hahah mic, there are other tuners, but im not gonna recommend them, because i cant vouch for them, ive had a nelson tune for over 2 years now and i like it. plus ive heard more bad things about other tuners.
Allen/Jon... Nelson that is
well I have not used them yet but im going to Wait4uperformance.com Ive talked to them on the phone and they seam pretty knowlageable oh buy the way they only cost 360.00 out the door for a harness rebuild and tune. where as nelson is 650.00 for a stand alone and 225.00 or 250.00 for a tune. wait 4u is life time tuning also so if u up grade you just send them the pcm and they retune it all you spend is shipping. I did not see where your located but if your in texas texas speed is jam up on there tuning and performance mods. A guy in midland texas does lots of conversions I believe his shop is cars and parts from mars I talked to him and he uses anoter place out of sa antonio but i don't remember what its called but he told me Nelsons are good but they are for someone with deep pockets and wanting bragging rights
ive always been stuck on, you get what you pay for when it comes to performance, nelson also gives free retunes, but i guess go with whomever you like, just watch out for the i told ya so's:lol:
LMAO, not starting anything, but we're not even close to a lot of shops out there when comparing $$$$$. We're considered reasonable, not high priced or cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by robznob11
Also, our reworked harness is $450, you're comparing their price to rework a harness to our complete brand new harness which is $650. There's a lot more to building a new harness compared to cutting out the extra stuff and grouping grounds, power and ignitions together. Our reworked harness includes, cutting out the extra stuff, simplifying the harness, adding a fuse block, obd2 connector, ses light, GM fuel pump relay, and easy 4 wire hookup.
Our hotrod tune, which gets your truck running with no emissions, vats, etc, is $150.
hope this helps clear things up.
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there ya go from the man himself!!!!
I don't see any new times on your rcsb truck, how's that thing running?Quote:
Originally Posted by skeet
Lots of mods!!
You do tunes Allen?
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Originally Posted by DamnYankee
Only turbocharged trucks.
...or SUVs...Quote:
Originally Posted by farmtruc
I never really had bad luck with Wait4me, but they are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to tuning. Allen has been at it about as long as anyone and I remember back when he had LS1-Edit(now pretty much obsolete technology).
I personally haven't been able to afford a Nelson tune, and decided to send my money elsewhere, but the more I spend on this site the more I appreciate his help and knowledge.
That is coming from a pretty unbiased source, and I am more than happy with my current tuner. He's just across the country is the problem.
Good lookin out Rob:melissa:Quote:
Originally Posted by rutroe
:LOL: @ deep pockets
Mini vans made of purple fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by DBTBSS
Im not downing you i have heard from many that your one of the best in the business but 450.00 + 150.00 to get running is too much for many on a budget. I agree if i were building a show truck and wanted to look pretty, there would be no other I would run but yours. not to mention I know your wire is a better grade than oem in the long run but im a poor boy on a poor budget and im just interested in going faster than the next. and by the time the oe wire wears out I be wanting a new project any how.. but just to clarify to all if you want a quality, dependable product and you have the coin to do it right the fist time or your building something to last forever go with nelson....:)Quote:
Originally Posted by farmtruc
painless can give you a whole new harness for 595.00 and there running a special that comes with a free tune to get you up and going. if your going to mod out you will probably find someone local to dyno tune before its all over with because thats the only way to fly right. Painless wires are as good if not better than any in the buisness. there are curently about 28 companys just in texas who build harnesses and tune. just make sure you use some one who will take all the crap off like the theft protection etc. because some fly by night places don't another reason to consider nelson there well known...:burnrubb:
Hey, no problem at all, I really appreciate the referrals!
I was just a little shocked when "deep pockets" was used, cause I've never had anyone say that.
thanks again,
allen
pretty sure i did my original build on a budget....81 horses gained, spent under 2500....you remember that allen:lol:
i can agree "on a budget" "im not looking for a show truck" "by the time the OE wires wear out you'll be moved to the next project" thats good points, but when it comes to no headaches and having to do searches for the right wires and all thats involved. id prefer a custom harness for one of the Best builders on the market. you can go S&P for 1,000.00 or spend 650.00 on a Nelson harness, or 600.00 on a painless, or 300 on an ebay harness. im just a firm believer of "you pay for what you get" i understand having to wait on cash an everyone has bills, cant afford a race queen. thats why its called a project bc the money is tight and you do the best you can with what you can afford. i dont think nelson is too expensive, but i cant vouch for his harness or any of his tuning. he doesnt even know me nor has he made any money off of me, but any question i ask him he does his best to explain it to me and help me out. so hes a great guy in my book. i have decided to make my life easier with my swap and go with the Nelson harness, i have my own tuner simply bc hes very close to me and i can always go to a dyno tuner when im done with all my Mods.
good luck with your project, cant wait to see the thread about it.
So $595 for a painless harness, and $600 for a nelson harness. Painless gives you a free "tune" to get you up and going, but you said you might need a real tuner to tune for your mods. So what's the difference I guess? Seems like it's the same price, not to mention the fact that Nelson can get you up and going instead of relying on a "tune" from a company that does not specialize in tuning.Quote:
Originally Posted by robznob11
You see, you dont have a real budget or real goals... just a poor boy excuse lol. Its always cheaper to do things right the first time and Nelson's prices are some of the most competitive in the business when you compare the $ to product quality ratio (which is excellent). But hey if your on a mega budget why not build the harness yourself then to save money right? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by robznob11
dont get a nelson tune ,your tranny will go out :argg: :rolleyes:
lol,j/k,NELSON PERFORMANCE IS THE SHIZZNIT
guys im not out here to sell anyones harness, im just throwing out info i have found out by searching every one seams to have a different idea of what a budget is , and somtimes searching web sites to find info is hard and time consuming because people hang on there preferance rather than just stating facts. and if any one here has ever built hot rods than you would know two identical engines may like different tunes to make them happy hence the reason for a dyno tune. I mean if you want a generic tune meaning every one gets the same "hot rod tune" then get it but don't be suprised when joe blow blows by you with a smaller cam and less money in his truck. I simply state info thats it you the reader can decide if you want cheap, simple, easy, long lasting or what ever, you get what you pay for is true most times but i cannot tell you how many old timers take stock parts mod them and make money bag kids with all the bells and wistles look stupid. some stock stuff can be made to work pretty easly but the world looks at everything out of the lazy mans eyes. why work when i can just buy and plug and play. then you have to ask yourself am i building a project or am i buying parts like a lego set and just assembling. there is a small joy in knowing your blood sweat and tears are in a project instead of just having your last years income in a bolt together investment, if thats what you want just let someone else build it for ya... all i can say is i love when someone likes what you built and says you must have a bundle in it and i say no there is little money in it but its in the right spot. save money where you can and invest it in more power via cam, supercharger, etc....:)
No one attacked you and no where have you ever mentioned getting a dyno tune (till now) which would obviously benefit anyone vs a mail order tune... If you wanna talk about puttin in a investment, hows about buy HP tuners an put in the time yourself mr sweat n tears.:coffee:
built my truck from frame up no exaggeration frame up in just over 30 days, and now i have hp tuners. i can honestly say ive had my hand on every single bolt and wire on my truck :thumb:
Which would explain a LOT of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by LamboDoNoMo
like that itll wax your ass on motor alone :dancenana:Quote:
Originally Posted by pl4yboy
If your not running 9s you are not the fastest.... whats your best timeQuote:
Originally Posted by LamboDoNoMo
Damn, you guys are slacking, took 23 posts this time.:ugh2: Are you guys almost forgetting about me? :sad:Quote:
Originally Posted by STUNNA
I don't have a favorite. Where is Jon's woo hoo emoticon?
He is much faster than 14's. He has a very nice setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by robznob11
hahahah 14's was so 5 years ago :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by robznob11
lmfao....
NEWBS :lol: when will they learn.
I'm working on a 1995 chevy tahoe I'm a newb but I'm going with Nelson..